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2001 Toyota Sienna 1MZ-FE
Engine Sludge!
(other years 1999, 2002, 2003,
2004, 2005 unknown if applicable - anyone?) Do you have a Toyota Sludge
Problem? What is the Toyota Sludge recall deal? Read On!
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Our 2001 Toyota Sienna 1MZ Oil Sludge Story.
At Christmas last year, I noticed the oil light coming on at idle- Bad Sign! I tried all the normal things - Oil Level, Oil Change, Oil Pressure Sensor / Switch. After dismissing those, I dropped the pan and saw BLACK. There was this black crusty stuff everywhere SLUDGE? Well no I thought, so I got a new oil pump, cleaned the pickup strainer and added an oil pressure gauge (+ $10 brass parts from hardware store - another story) Since the timing belt had to come off, I went ahead and replaced all the timing components and water pump. Great oil pressure now - maybe too much?
Mistake #1
The hydraulic belt tensioner looked different and needed longer bolts but I just thought "aftermarket" and went with it . I should have known better. Now YOU do too.
Mistake #2
Put engine cleaner in, managed to get a whole bunch of black stuff out (Toyota Sludge). NEVER do this to a high mileage engine! (I know now) Why? You are mobilizing all the Toyota sludge to get jammed in oil returns and seals, the automotive equivalent of a blood clot moving causing a stroke/heart attack.2 Days later. Knocking sound like crazy. Decided time to yank engine out. After investigating the Toyota Sludge Recall www.oilgelsettlement.com from Toyota found out our dealer had only actually replaced ONE engine in a YEAR, so did not hold much hope. They do NOT rod the engine oil returns, so they would not have discovered our problem anyway.. If you don't have hundreds of receipts for oil changes (I change my own oil) or know somebody in a dealership, you are pretty much OUT OF LUCK. The recall covers certain vehicles from 1998 to 2002 for only seven years, so all you 1998, 1999, 2000 owners may already be in trouble. Does not seem fair, but at least Toyota did try.
Pulled Engine & Tranny. (What a chore that is, BTW) Took to shop.Automotive Machine & Supply Took them 4 days to scrub the sludge out with brushes and vatting. I had caught it just in time! No damage to crankshaft, or block. While I was there, they said they found the noise, I had damaged the new tensioner? Well, they put another similar one in. I figured I was just ham-fisted. They got all the crud out and $1800 later, I put the engine back in (with the help of every guy in my street!)
Ran great for about a week, then knocking again! Took van back to Automotive Machine & Supply (engine rebuilders). These guys are absolutely the best. They reset all the valves and ran all kinds of tests. Also noticed the engine "hunting" with the RPM going up then back down. Started getting codes which suggested that the timing belt was stretched! P1531 P1490 While at the shop the guys at Automotive Machine & Supply noticed the excess play when rotating the engine by hand. The sound seemed to be coming from the front WTI Variable valve assembly, which just goes to show how difficult pinpointing engine sounds can be, even for professionals.
I limped the van home. (And I do mean limped) Would not go up a hill on the freeway without a struggle! Took the timing belt cover off AGAIN. The belt was loose and OFF 2 TEETH! HOW???? I took the new tensioner off and put in a hand vise (a simple way to test them). Instead of retracting very slowly, it went in far too quickly (about 1 second). It was BAD!!
I started to have a good look at these replacement tensioners. The diameter of the shaft was smaller than the NTN Toyota original. The machine guys felt terrible about the problem, ordered me a Toyota part and refunded me on the defective ones. Completed the replacement today and, of course, it appears fixed! Will let you know.Why do these Toyota 1MZ engines sludge up? Well apparently the PCI venting system is easily blocked and not really sufficient for the amount of gases put out. If the baffles inside each rocker cover or the PCV valves get blocked, the gases cannot get out and form sludge in the engine, blocking the already narrow engine oil returns. (Short trips don't help BTW) Toyota designed the top of the engine to run hot, to meet stricter emissions. The "hot spots" that develop can reach 260degF, also causing sludge. The cure? CHANGE THE OIL EVERY 3000 miles or SOONER. Use SYNTHETIC OIL - Does not sludge as badly apparently. As for me, I am changing my oil every 2,000!
The lessons - If a third party part looks really different - don't accept it! RESEARCH!
Use a great shop - Mine really came through.
The Synopsis ... or Oil Sludge Post Mortem (Your Choice)
So what really happened was.... The new oil pump added some extra pressure and made the oil light go away, but the sludge problem still existed. Only the fact that the new tensioner went bad made me pull the engine. The knocking sound was the tensioner vibrating against the belt swing pulley/wheel at the bottom of the engine - it sounded like it was everywhere though!Either way, we ended up with a better van that may last now!
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